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Comment by Gayla on October 14, 2009 at 10:39am

Confirmation....

Matthew 24 (New Century Version)

Matthew 24
The Temple Will Be Destroyed
1 As Jesus left the Temple and was walking away, his followers came up to show him the Temple's buildings. 2 Jesus asked, "Do you see all these buildings? I tell you the truth, not one stone will be left on another. Every stone will be thrown down to the ground."
3 Later, as Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, his followers came to be alone with him. They said, "Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that it is time for you to come again and for this age to end?"

4 Jesus answered, "Be careful that no one fools you. 5 Many will come in my name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and they will fool many people.6 You will hear about wars and stories of wars that are coming, but don't be afraid. These things must happen before the end comes.7 Nations will fight against other nations; kingdoms will fight against other kingdoms. There will be times when there is no food for people to eat, and there will be earthquakes in different places. 8 These things are like the first pains when something new is about to be born.

9 "Then people will arrest you, hand you over to be hurt, and kill you. They will hate you because you believe in me. 10 At that time, many will lose their faith, and they will turn against each other and hate each other.11 Many false prophets will come and cause many people to believe lies.12 There will be more and more evil in the world, so most people will stop showing their love for each other.13 But those people who keep their faith until the end will be saved. 14 The Good News about God's kingdom will be preached in all the world, to every nation. Then the end will come.

15 "Daniel the prophet spoke about 'a blasphemous object that brings destruction.'[a] You will see this standing in the holy place." (You who read this should understand what it means.) 16 "At that time, the people in Judea should run away to the mountains.17 If people are on the roofs[b] of their houses, they must not go down to get anything out of their houses.18 If people are in the fields, they must not go back to get their coats.19 At that time, how terrible it will be for women who are pregnant or have nursing babies!20 Pray that it will not be winter or a Sabbath day when these things happen and you have to run away,21 because at that time there will be much trouble. There will be more trouble than there has ever been since the beginning of the world until now, and nothing as bad will ever happen again.22 God has decided to make that terrible time short. Otherwise, no one would go on living. But God will make that time short to help the people he has chosen.23 At that time, someone might say to you, 'Look, there is the Christ!' Or another person might say, 'There he is!' But don't believe them.24 False Christs and false prophets will come and perform great wonders and miracles. They will try to fool even the people God has chosen, if that is possible. 25 Now I have warned you about this before it happens.

26 "If people tell you, 'The Christ is in the desert,' don't go there. If they say, 'The Christ is in the inner room,' don't believe it. 27 When the Son of Man comes, he will be seen by everyone, like lightning flashing from the east to the west. 28 Wherever the dead body is, there the vultures will gather.

29 "Soon after the trouble of those days,
'the sun will grow dark,
and the moon will not give its light.
The stars will fall from the sky.
And the powers of the heavens will be shaken.' — Isaiah 13:10; 34:4

30 "At that time, the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky. Then all the peoples of the world will cry. They will see the Son of Man coming on clouds in the sky with great power and glory. 31 He will use a loud trumpet to send his angels all around the earth, and they will gather his chosen people from every part of the world.

32 "Learn a lesson from the fig tree: When its branches become green and soft and new leaves appear, you know summer is near. 33 In the same way, when you see all these things happening, you will know that the time is near, ready to come.34 I tell you the truth, all these things will happen while the people of this time are still living. 35 Earth and sky will be destroyed, but the words I have said will never be destroyed.

When Will Jesus Come Again?
36 "No one knows when that day or time will be, not the angels in heaven, not even the Son.[c] Only the Father knows. 37 When the Son of Man comes, it will be like what happened during Noah's time.38 In those days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving their children to be married, until the day Noah entered the boat.39 They knew nothing about what was happening until the flood came and destroyed them. It will be the same when the Son of Man comes.40 Two men will be in the field. One will be taken, and the other will be left. 41 Two women will be grinding grain with a mill.[d] One will be taken, and the other will be left.
42 "So always be ready, because you don't know the day your Lord will come. 43 Remember this: If the owner of the house knew what time of night a thief was coming, the owner would watch and not let the thief break in. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at a time you don't expect him.

45 "Who is the wise and loyal servant that the master trusts to give the other servants their food at the right time? 46 When the master comes and finds the servant doing his work, the servant will be blessed.47 I tell you the truth, the master will choose that servant to take care of everything he owns.48 But suppose that evil servant thinks to himself, 'My master will not come back soon,'49 and he begins to beat the other servants and eat and get drunk with others like him?50 The master will come when that servant is not ready and is not expecting him. 51 Then the master will cut him in pieces and send him away to be with the hypocrites, where people will cry and grind their teeth with pain.


Footnotes:
Matthew 24:15 'a blasphemous object that brings destruction' Mentioned in Daniel 9:27; 12:11 (see also Daniel 11:31).
Matthew 24:17 roofs In Bible times houses were built with flat roofs. The roof was used for drying things such as flax and fruit. And it was used as an extra room, as a place for worship, and as a cool place to sleep in the summer.
Matthew 24:36 not even the Son Some Greek copies do not have this phrase.
Matthew 24:41 mill

Comment by Gayla on October 13, 2009 at 12:48am

Father God...thank you for bringing these hard words to your body.... Lord, we need to wake up.... we slumber....and we sleep.... while the battle rages for the heart and soul of America.... shake us Lord...shake us awake....open our eyes and our understanding of what is happening in our world.... we have the power to bring change.... for the good, and we have the power to save many many souls..... please....help us to see that.... we are sooooooo blind....... we have the key to the universe.....and what are we doing with it???? There are enough of us, to turn this world upside down for you....and what do we do with all that ability???? Forgive us Lord...we are soooooo guilty. For 2000 years now, we have known about you, and what have we done with this knowledge..... Lord, we are soooo guilty..... please forgive us......and cleanse our hearts and minds....and souls..... Lord, your word says that you are coming back for a bride without spot or wrinkle....and Lord.... we are crinkled.... almost to the point of no return.... please..... straighten us out.....remove the wrinkles....that we cannot remove on our own... Lord....we are not able to save ourselves....save us Jesus...... move in our hearts and lives.....move in our families....our schools....our homes....our government.... God... we need you....oh how we need you..... Please open our eyes to the truth... let us see what is truly happening to our country.... a country Lord, that your spirit founded....for the good of all.... The battle rages Lord....and it is getting hotter by the minute..... the forces of darkness are intending to wipe us out.... to totally remove any mention of your name... the atheists are rewriting history... removing any reference to a Christian nation.....and our president has just stated that we are not.....a Christian nation.....This is not so, Lord.... please....come to our aid.... There are many here who love you and who love this country.... do not let us be destroyed by those who hate you, and us..... forgive our sins, which are multitudinous..... heal our land.... bring our families back together again.... break down the walls of division that have erected themselves....so high that they cannot be breached....except by the power of your spirit.... move among us Lord..... move mightly ...save our country....save our families.....save our homes.....and esp. our children.....they are being led away from everything that is right and holy...and true.... protect them Lord, they are innocent... do not let their souls be destroyed...... reach down and draw them unto you, into your bosom.... watch over them..... and bring the families back into order...... cleanse us Lord....for we stinketh..... Amen.

Comment by veronica boyd on September 12, 2009 at 8:37pm

Hello sharing prophecy members"
I found a good article on the Differences between Prophets and seers by John Paul Jackson . This was a good bible study.


After reflecting on these various types and styles, I have come to understand that there are unique personalities as well as variations in the respective gifts of prophets and seers. Notice that I have not made a value statement, making one gift more valuable than another. Rather, they are two of many expressions within the revelatory arena.

Differences between prophets and seers seem to be more clearly distinguished in the Old Testament. However, the lack of distinction in the New Testament does not necessarily indicate they are the same. Instead, it may simply indicate the writers did not distinguish between prophets and seers, which may reflect a difference between the Hebrew and Greek mind-sets. The Greek language does not seem to recognize a difference between the two titles.

Since the Early Church, many believers in the West have failed to make a distinction between prophets and seers. At some point, the Church also stopped recognizing the title of a seer. In a similar way, they diminished the role of a prophet and failed to note the distinction between prophets and pastors, or even prophets and evangelists. Today, however, these perceptions are rapidly changing in many places around the world.

A STARTING POINT
As a starting point, I would like to suggest using the following three approaches. These steps will lay a biblical foundation for understanding these gifts. First, we need to approach the differences between prophets and seers through translating the original Hebrew words. Second, we need to approach the differences between prophets and seers by looking at the manner in which the titles are used. Third, we need to approach the differences between prophets and seers by looking at those who were given the titles and by trying to ascertain, whether or not their titles indicated differences in their respective functions.


WORD ORIGINS
Perhaps we should begin by looking at some of the Hebrew words translated in Scripture as “prophet” and “seer.” The Strong’s Concordance translates these as follows:


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“SEER” Hebrew (7200, 7203, 2374, 2372)
Hebrew 7200: ra’ah, raw-aw’; to see, look, view; to realize, know, consider; to be selected; to become visible, appear, show oneself; to be seen; to cause to see, show; to be shown; to look at each other, meet with; a general word for visual perception.

Hebrew 7203: ro’eh, ro-eh’; a seer; vision.

Hebrew 2374: Chozeh, kho-zeh’; seer, one who receives a communication from God, with a possible focus that the message had a visual component; agreement.

Hebrew 2372: Chazah, khaw-zaw’; to see, to look, observe, gaze, by extension: to choose (one thing or another); to have visions, to prophesy.



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“PROPHET” Hebrew (5030, 5012, 5197)
Hebrew 5030: nabiy’, naw-bee’; a prophet (true or false).

Hebrew 5012: naba’, naw-baw’; to prophesy, speak as a prophet; prophesy has its focus on encouraging or restoring covenant faithfulness, the telling of future events encourages obedience or warns against disobedience.

Hebrew 5197: nataph, naw-taf’; to pour down; gently fall, drip; to (drip words) preach, prophesy.



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WORD USAGE
We also need to look at how the words are used. Many use the terms “seer” and “prophet” interchangeably. Furthermore, some believe that seers have not existed since the time of the Prophet Samuel (1150 B.C. – 1010 B.C.). They quote 1 Samuel 9:9: “(Formerly in Israel, when a man went to inquire of God, he spoke thus: ‘Come, let us go to the seer’ for he who is now called a prophet was formerly called a seer)”.

However, this is a shortsighted point of view and creates a dilemma: Why does Scripture continue to make a distinction between prophets and seers after the era of Samuel?

SEERS AND PROPHETS CONTINUE TO CO-EXIST
I believe that seers and prophets continue to “co-exist” throughout Scripture. Both Gad, the seer, and Nathan, the prophet, served in King David’s court (2 Samuel 24:4; 1 Chronicles 29:29). Asaph, the seer, and Isaiah, the prophet, were also contemporaries during King Hezekiah’s reign (2 Chronicles 29:30; 2 Kings 20:1).

Therefore, I believe that 1 Samuel 9:9 implies that Samuel moved from functioning as a seer to functioning as a prophet. Or, more likely that Samuel fulfilled both the functions of a seer and a prophet!

In addition, there seems to be a difference even between those who functioned as “seers”. In 1 Chronicles 29:29, the word “seer” is used twice, but it is not the same Hebrew word. “Now the acts of Kind David, first and last, indeed they are written in the book of Samuel the seer (7200), in the book of Nathan the prophet (5030), and in the book of Gad the seer (2374)” (1 Chronicles 29:29). Perhaps this indicates a difference in how Samuel and Gad received revelation from God.

SAMUEL’S VS. GAD’S EXPERIENCES
Samuel had a wide variety of revelatory experiences, perhaps broader than Gad’s. Samuel was gifted in visions, knowings, and dreams. He transcended time and geographic locality to watch events that were occurring simultaneously outside of his immediate geographic location. He knew who was coming to his door before the person arrived. He even predicted weather patterns (1 Samuel 12:17).

In contrast, Gad’s revelatory gift was not as well documented. It is possible that he walked in the same level of prophetic gifting as Samuel, but there is no record of this. Scripture indicates that he carried the Lord’s rebuke to David for numbering Israel (2 Samuel 24:11-13). He also helped arrange Levitical music (2 Chronicles 9:25), and apparently wrote a history book about David’s reign (1 Chronicles 29:29).

Did people go to a seer more than to a prophet? It seemed to be common practice for the people of Israel to look to the seers for direction (1 Samuel 9:6-9). It was also common for them to bring the seer an offering for his livelihood (1 Samuel 9:7). There are also several instances where people went to the prophet for wisdom and direction from God.

In conclusion, prophets and seers still function today, as they did in biblical times. In fact we are seeing a worldwide renaissance in these types of revelatory gifts. Next month, I will offer deeper insights on these dynamic, re-emerging, and mysterious revelatory gifts.



Reprinted from The Elijah List


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John Paul Jackson is the founder of Streams Ministries International and is the author of many books. John Paul lives in the Lake Sunapee region of New Hampshire.
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This is another Good Article reprinted in part from the Internet By Lloyd Phillips. I do not know him or his Ministry but this may give you a better understanding of The Prophet & Seer’s office.

I am one who feels it is counter productive to redefine Biblical terms with non Biblical descriptions or definitions. Biblically a seer simply is a prophet who “sees”. Early on all prophets were called seers, but due to the false prophets misusing the term, the people of God used the word prophet, and seer was a specific term for those prophets who saw visions. 1 Sam 9:9b “for he who is now called a prophet was formerly called a seer.” 2 Chron 9:29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer concerning Jeroboam the son of Nebat? Iddo was called a seer simply because he had visions, in opposition to Nathan who also was a prophet, but not a seer. Seers have visions and when God spoke to Jeremiah, who was a seer, He asked him,”Jeremiah, what do you see?” And I said, “I see a branch of an almond tree.” (Jer 1:11) He did not ask Jeremiah “what do you feel”, or “what do you think”. What do you see is a question for a seer. Jesus also was a seer. “Nathanael said to Him, “How do You know me?” Jesus answered and said to him, “Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you.” (John 1:48), “And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” (Luke 10:18), some understand a gift where you sense through touch as a “seeing” gift, but others see the seeing gift more accurately described Biblically as one who “sees” things. Despite current ideas, the Bible should be our source for describing the prophetic. Biblically there are three Hebrew words that are translated as a prophet, two of which are translated as a seer. There is raah which is translated seer, meaning someone who sees open visions. That same word is used for someone who sees with natural eyes. Then there is chozeh. This word emphasizes spiritual apprehension, of internal visions. And lastly nabiy which is the most common biblical word in terms of the prophetic. It means someone who has the Spirit working within them. It is a word for inspiration. Every prophet receives this type of inspiration. Every prophet will be the nabiy kind, but not every prophet will be the raah or chozeh kind. I’ll have more to say on this shortly.

Having the ability to prophesy or to receive a word of knowledge for that matter does not make one a prophet in light of the ministry of a prophet. To confuse these things, confuses comprehension and may lower the Biblical standard, as well as the understanding of the true ministry of a prophet and seer. There does seem to be a lot of interest in the prophetic, and in the calling of a seer. But inaccurate information, no matter how well intended will only confuse the issue and cause the equipping of men and women to become that much more difficult.

There are different stages of revelation. Any prophecy or prophetic word has three parts to it. The first part is the revelation, dream, or vision itself. The second is the interpretation, answering the question “what does the revelation mean?” The interpretation can come in increments, over a period of time. And the third part is the application. It can be immediate or it can be long term. In regards to dreams or visions, God might use dark sayings or He may show us plainly face to face. In Numbers 12:6 God said,”Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the LORD, make Myself known to him in a vision; I speak to him in a dream. Not so with My servant Moses; He is faithful in all My house. I speak with him face to face, Even plainly, and not in dark sayings; And he sees the form of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid To speak against My servant Moses?” There are a diversity of ways that God speaks. He spoke to Moses face to face. Although we ’see through a glass darkly’, if we will submit ourselves to those dreams and visions and dark sayings, if we will pursue God, He will reveal their meaning to us. He wants us to come to Him for the interpretation. He wants us to come to Him for the information. He wants us to come to Him for the application. He wants us to be dependent upon Him. A word of knowledge or a prophecy can change a life. None of us will ever prophesy all things or have all knowledge. It will not happen. We know in part and we prophecy in part. (1 Cor 13:9) We are a body. He will give one of us a part, and then He will give a part to another one. He wants us depending upon Him. As we train ourselves to come back to Him, we will begin to see God more and more face to face.

How does He communicate with you? Different than how He speaks to me because you are you. He speaks to you in a language that you understand. One that touches your heart. In Isaiah 30:21 it says, “Your ears shall hear a word behind you, saying, ‘This is the way, walk in it, whenever you turn to the right hand or whenever you turn to the left’”. Mostly He directs us by His peaceful voice that says, “This is the way.” In Jeremiah 32:6 Jeremiah said, “The word of the LORD came to me, saying”, (it told him what to do and he carried it out). Then in verse 8 it says, “and then I knew that this was the Word of the Lord”. Jeremiah received the word and was obedient to carry it out and believe it, but only after he obeyed did he know it was the Lord. If Jeremiah sometimes was not clear until after he had obeyed, what about us?

God spoke to Moses and said for him to go down to Egypt and tell Pharaoh to let My people go, and that he would do many miracles. Moses asked for a sign to know if these things were true. God said after you go down there and all these miracles happen, Pharaoh will resist you but he will eventually let the people go and you are going to bring them back here and you are going to worship Me on this mountain. Then you will know it was Me. (Ex 3:12) That was his sign. Go do it. When you come back that will be the sign. This is not the kind of sign we like, is it? However, this is often God’s way. He expects us to walk in faith, and rewards us for doing His will. Confirmation is according to His will, and if we always require confirmation before obeying, we will one day find our selves missing God. The Lord once spoke to me “you do not need to understand in order to obey. If you wait until you understand before obeying, you will remain behind while others go forward.” God will always confirm His word, often by the fruit it produces after it is carried out and not before.

I like to describe understanding as the louvers in a blind. From one angle you cannot see out. As you change your position the view becomes unobstructed. From the new angle you can look outside and can see everything clearly. What has changed? Nothing but your position. When we go out in faith we have changed our position. We can receive from the Lord and we can say like Jeremiah did, “Now I know it is the Lord.” One of the three Hebrew words that are translated as a prophet in the Bible, raah is one that has the calling of a seer. Someone with this anointing will be someone who sees open visions and is also able to interpret them. That same word is used for someone who sees with natural eyes and understands. This level of prophet sees in the spirit with deeper understanding. There are not that many prophets in the scriptures who see open visions in proportion to the other types listed. The second type is called chozeh. This meaning emphasizes spiritual apprehension, of internal visions. The word chozeh is translated as prophet or seer but appears to be subordinate to the raah type of seer,because of the authority that comes through understanding available to the raah seer. I believe that this view is contained in the verse Is 29:10 For the LORD has poured out on you The spirit of deep sleep, And has closed your eyes, namely, the prophets (chozeh); And He has covered your heads, namely, the seers (raah). Those considered seers in the higher sense, raah, are usually given a preeminence over the other types of prophets. Samuel a raah type of seer was regarded above other prophets and seers of his day. He was not only a prophet sent with a message, but often had a deeper understanding and insight to go along with the vision he carried. Daniel was esteemed above all the other prophets and wise men of his time because of the understanding which accompanied his prophetic gifts. Dan 1:17 As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams. Seers have visions.

Lastly there is the Hebrew word nabiy which is the most common biblical word in terms of the prophetic. It means someone who has the Spirit working within them. It is a word for inspiration. Every prophet receives this type of inspiration and in the New Testament all believers can and should operate at this level at least in its elementary levels. Every prophet will be the nabiy kind, but not every prophet will be the raah kind. 1 Chron. 29:29 contains all three of these Hebrew words: “Now the acts of King David, first and last, indeed they are written in the book of Samuel the seer (raah), in the book of Nathan the prophet (nabiy), and in the book of Gad the seer (chozeh)”.

Any given prophet will have different longsuits in regard to these three types of inspiration. Some will see open visions, some will have angelic visitations, some dreams, visions and trances, and some or all will have inspirations and leadings of the inner witness. All who walk in the prophetic must learn nabiy inspiration. This is generally the first that we should become proficient with. I like to call this category of the prophetic, the still small voice.

Veronica

Comment by felixpadua on September 12, 2009 at 6:27pm

God bless all of us here!

Comment by joseph dillon on August 17, 2009 at 7:08pm

THE GIFTS AND CALLING OF GOD, ARE WITHOUT REPENTANCE, SO REMEMBER TO OBEY GOD AND ALWAYS DO WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO DO AND SAY. THE TIME IS SHORT AND THE SIGNS OF TH TIMES AND THE WORD OF GOD TELLS US THAT IN THE TIME THAT WE ARE NOW IN, THAT THE CHURCH WOULD DO THE SAME WORKS THAT JESUS DID AND GRATER WORKS THAT WE WOULD DO, AND THE GREATER WORK IS LEADING PEOPLE TO HIM AND OUR GOAL AS CHRISTIANS SHOULD BE TO TELL THEM ABOUT CHRIST AND GET AS MANY AS WE CAN TO ACCEPT THE GIFT OF SALVATION.

Comment by Karin Franklin on August 13, 2009 at 11:45am

When we have vision's of thing's God is going to do...what must we do beside's pray to have them manifeted in our live's and the live's of those in our vission

Comment by Lillian Lancaster on August 12, 2009 at 7:28am

That the strongest experience I have had when it comes to prophesy, is the prophesy God gave me for my son-in-law, about 11-12 years ago, that my s-i-l, would be saved, used mightily by God. All the way, up to last year, he wouldn't even be in the same room as me, and have some terrible tattoos done on his arms done, didn't want to hear about Jesus/God, resented it totally! -Last year, me, living in Egypt, due to my husbands job, we had rented a villa w swimming pool for the summer. My daughter and granddaughter usely visits me every year, and since my s-i-l is working offshore, he also wanted to come, and he had to come a week before his family, to be able to have 2 weeks with us here. - Well, I thought by myself, hm, this might be the time where the prophesy will manifest! And I was excited, to see what God would do, with my s-i-l and I, alone during the day while my husband was at work, what oportunity God would give me to talk to my s-i-l! Already the first day there with me, we got the oportunity to talk about Jesus,salvation, how God works in people, and so on! And, I have this book, 23 Minutes in Hell, and I asked him in the evening, before bedtime, about he wanted to read this book? Yes, he was all interested, and I went to bed that evening, expecting my S_I_L to be a new person in the morning! I was not dissapointed! - He had the most interesting experience with God that night! And I had some other books, by Lester Sumrall, that God had helped to pick out to bring to Egypt! I had that feeling that God had aplan with that too! And I was not dissapointed this time either! My s-i-l just loved these books, and he couldn't stop reading them! When he came back home to Norway, he went on the "net" and ordered more books by Lester Sumrall, he was just so hungry for everything God had for him, and he was baptized in the Holy Spirit, short time after. He is a man of prayers, and he witness everwhere he feel an opening! - He still need the water baptism, so remember him in your prayers! God is so good, and He is faithful to His Word! Amen!

Comment by joseph dillon on August 11, 2009 at 4:05pm

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME JOIN, AND I BELIEVE, THAT IN THESE LATTER DAYS THAT WE ARE NOW IN, THA GOD IS GOING TO POUR HIS SPIRIT OUT UPON ALL FLESH AND THAT THE GIFS AF GOD ARE GOING TO BE MANIFESTED IN A GREAT WAY IN AND AMOUNG HIS PEOPLE..

Comment by veronica boyd on August 11, 2009 at 2:35pm

Hey share prophetic events that are in the bible that has come to pass. We are sharing the prophecies of GOD and gifts of today that witness to the times we are in and everyone is gifted because the Holy spirit gives revelation knowledge to the body of Christ in all that we do for him . Sharing testamonies and what has miraculously done or revealed to you about today's events . For your family or anyone .

Comment by AKINORI AOKI on August 11, 2009 at 6:24am

Thank you invite me.
but may god help me and give me the chance Sharing prophecy.

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