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A group for those who have come from the occult that are now transformed by Jesus Christ. Also for those that are now involved in occult practices. A place to learn and grow!

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Latest Activity: May 25

What is the occult, New Age and New Thought Movement?

Definition of the occult: Pertaining to the supernatural especially evil influences.

Occult practices: Astrology, Charming Consulting w/ Spirits, Divination, Magic, Necromancy, Soothsaying, Sorcery, Witchcraft and Wizardry.
See Deuteronomy 18:9-14

NEW AGE MOVEMENT

“The New Age Movement (NAM) is hard to define as a singular religion. It is just what it is – a movement. It is essentially a collection of eastern-influenced metaphysical ideologies, a hodge-podge of theologies and philosophies that are bound together by “universal tolerance” and moral relativism. The NAM is the natural progression of humanism. It teaches that humans have evolved biologically, and must now evolve spiritually. Beyond that, it is difficult to define, as there is no hierarchy, doctrine, creed, or membership. You will be hard-pressed to find the “First New Age Church” on any street corner in your town.”

“Man is the central figure in the NAM. He is viewed as divine, and progressing toward a kind of godhood, or “Christ-Consciousness”. Many NAM divisions are pantheistic – they believe God is in everything, and everything together makes up God. Therefore, as a part of nature, man is part of God. Many New Age practices are designed to push man through the spiritual evolution to godhood. Astral projection (training your soul to have out-of-body experiences), contacting spirit guides, and using crystals to purify your body and mind’s energy systems are among these practices. Many New Agers believe in reincarnation and in Karma.”

“Some NAM terms you may hear are: holistic, synergistic, unity, oneness, harmony,
transformation, personal growth, human potential, awakening, networking, energy, cleansing, and consciousness. A disproportionate amount of NAM books and texts contain the word “self”. That is because, as we said earlier, man is the central figure. One must improve one’s “self” to become one with nature and god. You may also hear New Age followers using Christian terms. This is because they view Jesus as a man who excelled at spiritual evolution and progression, and was tuned into his “Christ Consciousness.” Do not be fooled, though. The Christian terms you will hear will have a different meaning to a New Ager than they will for you.”
Taken from Contender Ministries Website.

NEW THOUGHT MOVEMENT

New Thought movement, started by Phineas Parkhurst Quimby, a mind healer. You will also notice some elements of belief that are common in today’s New Age spirituality. Mind-science cults teach that God is an impersonal force. They will make God more like humans and humans more like God. NTM is nothing more than pantheism which is the belief that all is God, which is taken from Hinduism.

How they view:

The Bible
“Religious science teaches that there are many holy books, and they are all equal to the Bible as far as divine revelation goes.”

God
“Religious science believes that the universe is the body of God. A view called pantheism. Every person is part of the universe, so every person is part of God.”

Jesus
“Religious science believes that Jesus merely showed us the way. Jesus embodied the Christ “consciousness” and we can do the same thing.”

Humankind and Sin
“Religious science teaches that all human beings are divine. We don’t sin; we simply make mistakes.”

Salvation
“Religious science, God does not punish sin, so there’s no need for salvation.”

Death and Afterlife
“Religious science heaven and hell are merely illusions we create in our minds.”

What’s the appeal?

The mind sciences appeal to how they make people feel. In our world there is sickness and suffering. Within mind-science religions, they say it is only the result of wrong thinking. “The mind sciences are full of compassionate, spiritually sensitive people who want to feel better about humanity and our world, so they deny the reality of a personal God and substitute the notion of an impersonal life force. It’s not what you think that counts, but how you feel.”

These sciences make people feel better about life by creating an alternative reality. A question one needs to ask is whether this alternative reality is rooted in truth or fantasy?

To research this subject more deeply read, “The Challenge of the Cults” by Ron Rhodes

Discussion Forum

of the occult 5 Replies

Hello, My name is Jamie. I use to be in the occult... I am now set free by the blood of Jesus Christ. He has shown me that it was wrong doing all these things. I use to do rituals. I was into vamp...

Started by Jamie Caton. Last reply by Janet Oct. 14, 2008.

New Here, My Story.

I was raised as a Christian, but many things led to my going down the wrong path, and they are all a very long story. To make a long story short, I happened upon a book at the library called "The C...

Started by ChrissieStarr Sep. 5, 2008.

THERE IS VICTORY OVER PAGAN AND OTHER OCCULTS 10 Replies

This discussion is a place where anyone can post stories of overcoming the bondages of having pariticapated in the practices that are not of the one and only GOD. The desire is to have a place to e...

Tagged: prayer, overcomming, wicca, pagan, occult

Started by rix. Last reply by Jamie Caton Jul. 24, 2008.

Acts 19:19 Many of those who had practiced magic brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. 4 Replies

"And many who had believed came confessing and telling their deeds. Also, many of those who had practiced magic brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted up...

Tagged: 19:19, Acts, Wiccan, Pagan, Magic

Started by Grace4u2receive. Last reply by Grace4u2receive Jul. 19, 2008.

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Comment by Grace4u2receive on August 6, 2008 at 10:14pm: Hello Melanny, God bless you and the love you have for your family! We will keep your Uncle and mother's side of your family in our prayers. It is hard to see when our family has that truth in their lives, and turns away from it to be lost in the darkness. I did that way for ten years. If he was a believer before, the Holy Spirit is still guiding him even though he probably not listening to that voice. May God continue to bless you as you live for Him! Love, Grace

Comment by melanny manuputty on August 2, 2008 at 2:32pm: hello,Iam Melanny my uncle in Indonesia before believe in Jesus but now he practise magic.
A lot of year i pray for him also part of my mom's family.
I believe he will be repent & accept Jesus like His personal Saviour
Melanny

Comment by Trimmedlamp on August 1, 2008 at 12:05pm: One of my favorite chapters in the Bible is Revelation 4. There we get a glimpse of the awsome majesty and holiness of God! Holiness. The complete absence of evil. Nothing in the universe--no false power can compare to being in the presence of GOD.

Comment by Grace4u2receive on July 10, 2008 at 2:27pm: Mary, thank you for your comment, we will keep this New Age Center in prayer and those that keep going to it! One thing I will say is that sometimes people need to go down the wrong path, so that they will be more apprecative when they find the right one. That is the one thing I had to realize, that I made the choice to follow the New Age Movement. Even through that time God, knew the purpose of my life. I am so thankful, to Him for the transformation he did in my life. God Bless You!

Comment by mary jamieson on July 8, 2008 at 5:02pm: just before ron and i were called my sister in Itay played with a wigyboard and became ill (we were chatholics at the time) the priest in italy sent her to a fortune teller who wanted alot of money to drive out the evil spirt she tried to kill herself and thats when dad too me to ge her, i being not so well educated as my sister and dad (she is pro english and i did not read at all )related spirit to spiritul church and took her to a spiritul church who sent us to local new age centre to mee this man who would deliver her we went twice each time putting our crosses on the floor, and praying the our father prayer AT that time billy graham was in liverpool and ron and i went and i asked the lord jesus into my life and gave my life to him (ron wanted to think about it and has taken a long time to come through, one yr later after praying for the new age centre , ron and i went to talk to the man who run it and he shut the door in our faces , we kept praying and soon after at a tent mission in the park he was sat in front of us, could you, pray i have not seen him since, for just going twice i can see how people can get so in to it because they on try to do good without the Lord of course , quite a few nuns and priests went so i will pray for all those who went to that centre that the father might show them jesus, it is the first time i have looked this far back thank you for your prayers

Comment by Grace4u2receive on June 21, 2008 at 11:02am: Rix, Thanks for sharing that! It is truly amazing how he takes us through the trials of life, so that we may help others and He is glorified. At first when I came out of the occult, I was angry at God and asked Him why I had even fallen into that trap. Then I realized it wasn’t his fault! I’m the one that was that became deceived, his truth was always there. God can use anyones life and turn it around for good, so that he is glorified.

Comment by rix on June 19, 2008 at 4:39am: All I can say is that I am a different man since I accepted Christ on July 5, 1989 after falling into witchcraft without knowing it. Yes I tore up and destroyed books, burned up $2000.00 worth of pot, and just allowed another person to clean my home of other things. I want nothing but Christ now and would rather die than to be deceived or to deceive others. Thank you grace for your courage to start this group. I will be less busy soon and look forwards to becoming more involved with this group. Thank you for your friendship and I truly enjoy our communications. may God richly bless you and yours. 500 billion blessings sister and for each and every one of those whom God has given to your care.

Comment by MaryAnn on June 14, 2008 at 3:29pm: Hi everyone, May I give a special welcome to Terrri. I'm pleased to meet you.

I was once 'pagan' before knowing Christ. And...at that time I considered myself a christian, when really all I had was a belief system that I was putting together myself, and being blown by every wind of new teaching that came along. (Ephesians 3)

But God intervened'... and something so amazing happened to me as I was seeking to know the TRUTH, (my story is on my page.)

I have since thrown out all the books and tapes, and have had the revelation that though new age teaching sounds like the truth, mostly it's all lies so clever they only sound like the truth. This only comes through revelation from God. I pray that all true seekers will have the revelation of the truth that they are looking for.

So now I must speak the truth in love, and say truly 'New Age Beliefs' and 'Christianity' do not go together at all. 'No man can serve two masters. Matthew 6:24'.

Jesus is my treasure, and my heart is with HIM, and now that HE has a hold of my life, HE will never leave me or desert me. I love that about HIM.

MA

Comment by Trimmedlamp on June 14, 2008 at 2:57am: It's very interesting to note that in this day and age, terminology often does not mean what it originally meant, and different people will use the same term, but have very different meanings. For instance, the word "gay" used to mean happy or merry. Now, it has a diffferent meaning. Another example is the word "god." When a Christian says that, we mean the God of the Bible. But, not everyone means that. To some, god is the universe, a principle, an essence found in all created things. But, the God of the Bible is the Creator--not part of the creation.

Many people consider themselves to be Christian. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by Me." Jesus and Jesus alone is the way to Salvation. Not Jesus and our good works. Not Jesus and meditation, or crystals, or chakras. Just Jesus. How wonderfully simple and blessed that is!

Many people want to include Jesus in with their other "gods." They like some of His teachings. But, we can't take "some" of His teachings. We have to take them all. Just like we can't expect Jesus to be a part of our belief system. Jesus is Lord. He did not die on the cross to take His place next to other gods or methods of belief. He died to save humankind from our sins because only He could have done that. Jesus is not one of a heirarchy of "ascended masters." HE IS GOD; SECOND PERSON of the TRIUNE GOD--FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT. The one and only true God.

How amazing it is that God loves us! He loves us right where we are. And when we accept His sacrificial gift, and make Jesus Lord and Savior, He will help us to go where we need to go, and be what we need to be. What a relief it is to know that He has everything under control. Nothing will come into our lives that hasn't passed by Him first. What a relief to let go off all the things that have kept us from complete communion with Him.

Praise God for His Mercy and Grace; and His unfathomable love for us!

Comment by Grace4u2receive on June 9, 2008 at 3:23pm: I have a music cd by Jason Gray, that I wanted to share the words of the song. You can all check him out at www.jasongraymusic.com

Here are the words to the song, Everything I Own. Hope you enjoy!

Written by David Peightal

What would I give to be pure in heart
To be pure in flesh and bone
What would I give to be pure in heart
I’d give everything that I own
I’d rid my whole house of its demons of lust
And open the windows of trust
And out of those windows all fear will have flown
I’d give everything that I own

What would I give for the words of God
To come tumbling from the throne
What would I give for the words of God
I’d give everything that I own
I’d open my head and they’d roll right in
When I opened my mouth they’d roll out again
And uproot the weeds of the deeds I have sown
I’d give everything that I own

Now what would I give for my children’s strength
On the day that they stand alone
I mean what would I give for their strength to stand firm
I’d give everything that I own
I’ve wasted my life in accomplishing things
Ignoring the giver of wings
So Lord teach them to fly to the foot of your throne
I’ll give everything that I own

All I’ve accomplished, the titles I hold
My passions, position, possessions and gold
To God they must look like a thimble of foam
And it’s everything that I own
Dirty rags are all that I own

So I stand before God with my stubble and hay
He just laughs, but says there’s still a way
Because “Father, Forgive” are the words Jesus moaned
When He gave everything that He owned

So what would I give to be pure in heart
For the known to be made unknown
What would I give to be born again?