please cant understand this vs???

[candy:)]

1 corinthians ch 14:35

"if there is something the women want to know ,they should ask there own husbands at home,it is shameful for a woman to speak at a church meeting"


huh?????????/ and its the new testament tooooooooooooooooooo? confused?

[Charles Burwell]

Dear Candy

I read in a commentary, Ibelieve it was William Barkley's but i'm not at all positive about that, that Paul was addressing a problem in the local church in Corinth.. The way it was explained was that the men sat on the lower level and the women sat in what amounted to a balcony . Due to the size , and probably the acoustics, of the church the women could not , at times, hear clearly something that the speaker had said. Some of these women would call down to their husbands inquiering as to what was just said or even to ask what the speaker meant. Obviously this would have been disruptive to the service and Paul was telling the church to wait until they left the church or at least until the service was over to ask their husband to explain.

Why the women sat in the balcony I don't know but it must have been a tradition of some sort. Anyhow , that's what the commentator gave as the explanation. Some people tie this in with the scripture where Paul says that he doesn't permit a woman to have authority over a man to men that women should not speak or have any authority in the church.

As to wether this was the case or not I don't know because , obviously, I wasn't there. In light of the scriptures it does sound like a plausible explanation for Paul's comments in Corinthians. It makes more sense than to just say women should not speak at all in church. I hope you get a better answer from someone else. Just remember, in case you were wondering, There are no second class Christians.

God bless

[Ron Payne]

Hi There,

My wife who is a Yiddisha Mamma, and a Messianic Jewess informs me, that even today in the very Orthodox Jewish Synagogue, the women and men still sit separated from each other.
And as you rightly said Charles, that was the problem Paul was referring to.
I can just hear them now, "Harold is the Rabbi saying there is Haddock in the passage?" "No dear, He said it was an inadequate passage?
Blessings,
Ron.

[Darlene]

Candy, thanks so much for asking this question. I'm writing to a lady now who has a huge problem with thinking men are more important than women in the church. These answers will give me something to pass on to her. Her name is Amber. Please pray for her. Thanks bunches, Darlene

[Jonathan McLatchie]

[Theresa]

Hey Candy,

I agree with Charles, I also heard the same explanation and from knowing about the Jewish's tradition, it does make sense why 1 Corinthians 14:35 says to women to do that.
What the Holy Spirit is showing me here that men and women alike need to be under a subject of authority and to honor and listen to the authority in their lives. I believe this is not a put down scripture to women but rather remind them of respecting the authority in their lives, to ask for the blessings from the authority God placed over them before they do something.
Joyce Meyer the Christian preacher and the author of so many Christian books asked her father who sexually abused her, her father who in the natural eyes had no rights whatsoever to speak or tell Joyce what to do in her later life when she grew up. Yet Joyce Meyer asked her father to bless her and permit her to speak about what he did to her when she was growing up. Joyce Meyer knew the importance of honoring and respecting the authority in her life. The same thing goes for husband and wives, God says for a woman to honor her husband by taking into consideration what he is saying and it is not a put down for a women whatsoever.
I encourage you to read Terry Scerine's book " A Joyful Marriage Fortress", it will clarify things for you and make it simpler and his book should encourage you.
God bless you my sister and Give you peace to settle this issue in your heart in Jesus name!

[candy:)]

marriage??????? ah im just 17

[Theresa]

Hey Candy,
No, it is not shameful for women to speak at church and thank God for women preachers and teachers today, I learned a lot personally from their teaching and I think they are very needed in the body of Christ.
Yes my friend, no marriage for a while...17 years old? Oh my gosh!
This book I mentioned is a good book even for teenage girls or boys, I wish I read it when I was your age.
I love you dear sister in Christ and may God bless you abundantly:)

[candy:)]

i was a little freked out ..cause i work with youth ...people like18 to 25 yrs old people ...i know im just 17 but iv been tru alot and learnt alot of stuff.JESUS IS AN AWESOME TEACHER ..no one can eva teach betta than him ...so ya ..its like this ..GOD teaches me something during the week ..And inspires me to put it in an interesting way ...and i do dat topic ..on sunday ..with the youth..so ..when this vs came up i got abit confused ...now am clear ..thanks ...have you read "31 girl" by mary simpsom ..its good and also battle field of the mind ...joyce mayer.....its good ..i did topics on ...thoughts ...some times its ...a story ...then ..its a msg of GOD tru a game ....just make it interesting ...coz its hard to get young peop's attension ..ya iv been working on faith ...its an awesome topic ...stilll working on it:) anyways keep me in ya prayers..........

[candy:)]

i sure will read it ...if i find it k....:)

[Theresa]

Candy,

You can find Terry Scerine's book" A Joyful Marriage Fortress" on websites like Barnes and nobles or go to the store and order it from them, you can find it too on amazon, Tate Publisher, etc... just type the name and I guarrantee you will find it and it is very affordable too, good for counseling, this book will make things clearer to you on the importance of honoring the authority in our lives and it will leave you peaceful, joyful and more in love with God because Terry through God's word will show you how things go in order :)
Yes, this book talks about Marriage, the role of mothers and fathers and the negative or positive effects it has on their children if the authority in the house is being abused, it will show you why so many kids and even adults live and go the wrong way and how only by the grace of God, their lives can be straightened.
I encourage you my younger sister to read it with all of my heart and you will not be sorry:)

[candy:)]

does this book just speak about marriage

[Gayla]

There are many churches today, who still hold to the literal interputation of these scriptures, and many women are held captive to them, as written, however, I do not believe this was Jesus intent, because the scrpiptues also say, , "There are neither male nor female, but, all are one, in Christ Jesus "

I had one pastor explain it by putting the empathis on "your women". When a woman comes to Jesus for salvation, she is no longer under the law, but, under grace. She is filled with the Holy Spirit, just like a man. Will anyone, tell the Holy Spirit, he cannot participate in a service ?

If you consider, what has been written above concerning this, about the men and women sitting seperately, and you consider the fact that a woman, or a man, are supposed to learn to be led, by the Holy Spirit, , and the fact that Jesus came to elevate women back to their original place, beside the man, (rather than under his thumb, as it is in some places ) it begins to make sense.

Women of the day, did not hold the same position women do today, and in many cases, they were truly considered as less than....and many were unlearned, (had not been taught formally ) so, with all this in mind, it begins to become clearer, what was said, and how it was meant.

Unlearned women, in the church, that had not yet, received the gift of the Holy Spirit, were causing disruption, and the statement was made, in order that they might be still, untill after the meeting, and discuss what was said with their husbands.

A Holy Ghost filled woman of God, would not be considered as "your women", I do not believe, because this just does not fit with the rest of the scriptures.

The second scripture, about a woman not having authority over a man, is along the same lines. In the KJV of the bible, it says, that a woman shall not usurp a man. If you look that word up, it is a forceful thing, to usurp, or take the place of, which again, a Holy Spirit led, woman of God, will not usurp... authority... from anyone, because she is sensitive to the leading of he Lord in her life, and does not want to make any moves that will grieve him.

I struggled with these scriptures, just like everyone does, when they run into them, however, I kept praying and asking questions, until I settled it in my heart. I hope this will help you to settle it also, as God never intended for anyone to be held back from being all they can be, in him.

There is another scripture that I think helped to settle it in my mind, and that is, The letter kills, but, the spirit gives life. To me, these words are glorious. Because if we feel we are held down, by the word of God, when the spirit of God inside, is not bearing witness, then we need to seek more information, on the subject that we are studying.

Also, if you will go back and read the next verse, it says, "What, came the word of God, out to you only?" Meaning to the men only and not the women.

I think the minsunderstanding over these verses, have kept many women in bondage to the letter of the law, when the spirit came to set them free and empower them.