JOEL OSTEEN

[jamie allen lindsey]

AIN'T TRYING TO BE MEAN ,BUT HAS ANY BODY EVER SEEN THE T. V. PREACHER JOEL OSTEEN PREACH THE "GOSPEL"? WHEN I SAY GOSPEL I MEAN PREACHING BOUT JESUS BEING BORN A VIRGIN,DYING ON THE CROSS FOR OUR SINS AND BEING RAISED FROM THE DEAD BY OUR FATHER?ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS OF OUR SINS AND ASKING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST INTO OUR LIVES AND BECOME OUR LORD AND SAVIOR! THERE IS SALVATION IN THAT,BUT NOT HEARING HOW SUCESSFUL YOU CAN BE !SUCESSFUL MONEY WISE ON THIS EARTH? IS IT NOT DANGEREOUS FOR A PREACHER TO NOT TELL THE GOSPEL? HOW CAN A PERSON BECOME A CHRISTIAN FROM SUCH "PREACHING"? "IF A MAN GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES HIS SOUL...." BILLY GRAHAM [WHO ALWAYS GAVE THE PLAN OF SALVATION WHEN EVER I HEARD HIM} HAD HIS PICTURE WITH JOEL,BUT DID HE KNOW WHAT JOEL PREACHED? HE IS PRETTY OLD AND MAY HAVE NOT KNOWN. WE HAVE ALL HEARD HOW MANY DIFFERENT SINS WILL BRING DOWN THE USA,BUT HAS ANY BODY HEARD ONE PREACHER TALK ABOUT GREED AND THAT "THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL"? I AM NOT AGAINST A CHRISTIAN HAVING MONEY! JUST DON'T SAY ALL CHRISTIANS SHOULD HAVE LOTS OF MONEY ETC CAUSE THAT IS GOD'S WILL ,OTHERWISE SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG WITH THE WAY YOU BELIEVE! ! I PRAY THAT THE LORD WILL HELP JOEL KNOW TO PREACH THE GOSPEL ! GOING TO HEAVEN IS ALL IMPORTANT! ,MAY THE LORD TAKE JOEL OSTEEN AND MAKE HIM A GREAT PREACHER OF THE GOSPEL AND MILLIONS COME TO KNOW OUR LORD AND SAVIOR ,EVEN IF THEY LIVE ON THE STREETS! AGREE- DISAGREE? LET ME KNOW! JAMIE

[Theresa]

JAMIE,

I AM WRITING IN BIG LETTERS FOR YOUR SAKE, I REJOICE WITH YOU FOR THE MIRACLE YOU HAD AND YOUR BROTHER 'S SALVATION, HE IS OUR MERCIFUL GOD " BUT YOU, ADONAI, ARE A MERCIFUL, COMPASSIONATE GOD, SLOW TO ANGER AND RICH IN GRACE AND TRUTH. PSALM 86:15"

GOING BACK TO JOEL OSTEEN, I AM PLEASED AND AT PEACE TO KNOW THAT I DO NOT HAVE ONE BAD WORD TO SAY ABOUT HIM, THIS DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT HIM AND NOT ME AND YOU WANTED TO KNOW SOME ANSWERS AND I BELIEVE GOD WANTS ME TO TELL YOU HOW I REALLY FEEL.

JOEL OSTEEN IS A MAN OF GOD, BLESSED BY GOD AND FORGIVEN AND LOVED BY GOD AND COVERED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS AND I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HIM WHATSOEVER. I BELIEVE HE IS DOING WHAT GOD WANTS HIM TO DO . HIS MESSAGES ARE INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT .
ATHEISTS AND AGNOSTICS AND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME TO THE LORD BECAUSE OF THE WORD HE PREACHES THROUGH JESUS WHO LOVES HIM SO MUCH.


I REFUSE TO TICKLE EARS OR BE USED TO ITCH EARS, I AM HERE TO STATE WHAT GOD WANTS FROM ME, THEREFORE,
I REJECT AND REFUSE TO VISIT ANY WEBSITE THAT TALKS BAD AND BASH HIM GOD AND SPEAKING ILL OF JOEL OSTEEN OR ANY OTHER CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS FOR I KNOW THAT SATAN IS THE ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN AND I WILL NOT JOIN IN ANY SLANDER OR SPEAKING ILL OF SOMEONE ESPECIALLY A CHRISTHIAN BROTHER OR SISTER.
I DO NOT HAVE MUCH USE FOR ANY PREACHER THAT WILL PUT DOWN ANOTHER CHRISTIAN FOR ANY REASON. ( THIS IS ME ) .

HAVE YOU READ THE BOOK OF OBADIAH, IT IS AN EXCELLENT BOOK, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ IT,



THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SHARE MY OPINION ABOUT JOEL OSTEEN.

GOD BLESS JOEL OSTEEN AND KEEP THE EVIL ONE AWAY FROM HIM AND THIS IN JESUS NAME I PRAY.

MUCH LOVE AND BLESSING TO YOU MY BROTHER AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR MORE FROM YOU ON OTHER TOPICS.

THANK YOU!

[Jonathan McLatchie]

[John Scott]

True.

[jamie allen lindsey]

JONATHAN: I UNDERSTAND AND BELIEVE IT! THERESE: YOU GOT EVERY RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND SAY WHAT EVER YOU HAVE TO SAY . THANK GOD THAT IS WHAT AMERICA IS :PEOPLE HAVING DIFFERENT VEIWS AND WE LISTEN AND TAKE SOMETHING AWAY FROM WHAT A PERSON THINKS,EVEN IF WE DISAGREE,WE HAVE ANOTHER VEIW POINT! I AM NOT INTO "BASHING " ANY BODY! IF YOU KNEW ME ALL WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT! IF I FEEL JOEL OSTEEN "IS WRONG" OR EVEN IF IT IS ONLY ME THAT THINKS THAT I AM FOR LOVING THE PERSON AND PRAYING FOR THAT PERSON,JUST LIKE I HOPE PEOPLE LOVE ME AND PRAY FOR ME WHEN I AM WRONG AND OUR LORD KNOWS BOUT HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE BEEN WRONG! WHEW! BUT ALL I AM ABOUT IS GOD THE FATHER,JESUS THE SON AND OUR FATHER,AND THE SWEET HOLY SPIRIT WHO IS OUR COMFORTER ,DOES OUR PRAYING FOR US {AS IT SAYS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO PRAY!] I LOVE JOEL OSTEEN,BUT CAN I NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE HE ERRS IN PREACHING THE GOSPEL? OR RATHER DOES NOT PREACH THE GOSPEL WHERE BY PEOPLE ARE SAVED! IS NOT GETTING SINNERS TO COME TO KNOW OUR LORD JESUS SO THEY CAN JOIN US IN HEAVEN MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THEN ANY RICHES ON EARTH ,BUT TO LAY UP TREASURES IN HEAVEN WHERE THEY NEVER FADE AWAY? EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE CAN YOU NOT SEE MY HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE? AGAIN I BASH NO BODY EXCEPT MYSELF.[WHICH I PROBABLY DO WAY TO MUCH! PLEASE PRAY FOR ME YALL AS I DO ALL ON HERE! LETS LIFT EACH OTHER UP IN THE LORD AS WELL AS JOEL OSTEEN,BUT LETS NOT BE BLINDED AND SAY "HE IS A MAN OF GOD AND WE LOVE HIM SO TO TALK ABOUT HIM OR QUESTION ANY THING HE DOES IS WRONG,OFFENSIVE,BASHING HIM ETC! IT IS GOOD TO QUESTION M,EN THAT TALK TO THOUSANDS IN THE NAME OF GOD! IF THEY ARE OF GOD IT WILL NOT HURT THEM IN ANY WAY,BUT IF [I SAID" IF" SO DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME!] THEY ARE NOT PREACHING THE WORD OF GOD IT BEHOOVES US TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS,EVEN IF SOME DON'T LIKE IT! I SAY LETS ALL BE OF ONE MIND AND ACCORD IN THIS WAY:LETS LIFT JESUS UP ABOVE ALL MEN! LETS ALL KEEP OUR EYES ON THE PRIZE!{JESUS} AS PAUL SAID LET US KNOW ONLY ONE THING AMONG US "JESUS AND HIM CRUCIFIED"! I HAVE MET MANY WONDERFUL PEOPLE ON THIS SITE AND HOPE TO MEET MANY MORE! I LOVE ALL AND PRAY OUR LORD COMES TO GET US SOON AND VERY SOON! JAMIE

[Theresa]

JAMIE,

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY, YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT AMERICA AND THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD BLESS JOEL OSTEEN IN JESUS NAME.

GOD, YOU WILL KEEP HIM IN PERFECT PEACE WHOSE MIND IS STAYED ON YOU, BECAUSE HE TRUSTS IN YOU. ( ISAIAH 26:3 )

[jamie allen lindsey]

AMEN AND AMEN! JAMIE

[jamie allen lindsey]

OKAY FAIR IS FAIR AND I LISTENED TO JOEL THIS MORNING AND AT THE END HE DID TELL ABOUT RECIEVING CHRIST AS SAVIOR! ALSO I ADMIT I WAS UP LIFTED BY HIS MESSEGE! STILL WISH HE PRECHED MORE ABOUT JESUS AND THE WAY TO SALVATION ,BUT WELL...LIKE I SAID I DID GET A BLESSING! ALSO HIS MESSEAGE TODAY WAS NOT'THE LORD WANTS YOU TO HAVE MORE RICHES,BUT INSTEAD GOD WANTS US TO BE HEALERS,IN THE WAY OF LIFTING PEOPLE UP AND NOT PUSHING THEM DOWN. THAT WAS COOL! HEY DON'T MEAN I AM ON THE OSTEEN EXPRESS,BUT... THERE IS HOPE FOR BOTH OF US YET! HA HA! LOVE YOU ALL:JAMIE

[Gayla]

I didn't get to read all the replies, because they are so lengthy, however, I have heard this argument before, and I have heard Joel preach, to me, he is the essence of kindness, what we all should be, and he has clearly stated that he did not want to preach, but, God would not allow him to do otherwise.

Fact.... God called him.

He does and will answer to God.

Gods word says it is up to him, to make his servants to stand.

Not all are called to be an evangelist.

I think the world is a better place because a man named Joel Osteen lives, and is obedient to the call that is upon him, and I think we would all do well to Touch not my annointed, and do my prophets no harm. NO matter the message that God has given them to preach.

[ENAMOURED]

God has blessed Joel Osteen and I thank God for Him. It is a sad thing that many believers and unbelievers hate this man of God, God has blessed his minstry ubundantly and you want him to loose it all? God is using Joel to reach out to the world and it takes money to keep the lights on, toiletry, payroll,etc. I will pray for you cause it seems like you really dislike any Pastor who's ministy is blessed by God if you can't stand him then change the chanel. LUKE 6:38

[jamie allen lindsey]

FACT "GOD HAS CALLED JOEL OSTEEN"? SEEMS SOME ON HERE THINK "EVEGELISTS" PREACH THE GOSPEL" WHILE "PREACHERS/PASTORS DONT?" PREACH BY ITS VERY DEFINITION IS TO "PREACH THE GOSPEL" OR ELSE THEY ARE NOT PREACHERS. NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE IS A DISTICTION LIKE THIS MADE! I THINK IT IS HEALTHY TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT PREACHERS. THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE GOD'S MAN.I DON'T THINK THE PREACHER IS SO HOLY HE CAN'T BE DISCUSSED. JUST LIKE REV. IKE THAT JUST PASSED AWAY? ,JIIMY SWAGGERT?,TED HAGER? GOOD TO INSPECT THEM! NO HARM CAN BE DONE IF IT IS DONE IN LOVE. AS IT SAYS TEST THE SPIRITS. IT SEEMS JUST AS BAD TO PUT DOWN A PERSON THAT ONLY WANTS TO KNOW! JIM BAKER? THESE HAVE FALLEN ,BUT I PRAY FOR THEM AND LOVE THEM AS I KNOW I FALL ALOT! LETS JUST NOT BE BLINDED! I AM IN NO WAY COMPARING JOEL OSTEEN TO JIM JONES,BUT DO REMEMBER OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAD BLINDLY FOLLOWED HIM. THEY THOUGHT HE WAS A MAN OF GOD! MANY FOUND LOVE,ACCEPTANCE. ONLY LATER DID HE TURNED INTO THE PERSON THAT KILLED OR ORDERED PEOPLE TO BE KILLED! SHAME HE WAS NOT SCRUTINIZED MORE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE TALKING TO ME BELLASONUS WHEN YOU SAID "YOU WANT HIM TO LOSE IT ALL"? NEVER SAID THAT! "SEEMS LIKE YOU REALLY DIS LIKE ANY PASTOR WHO'S MINISTRY IS BLESSED BY GOD"? I NEVER SAID THAT. ALL I HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER IS JUST SEE IF HE PREACHES THE GOSPEL,WHICH IS WHAT HE AND ALL PREACHERS SHOULD DO IN THESE LAST DAYS TO GET PEOPLE INTO HEAVEN.PREACHING THE GOSPEL IS NOT "POSITIVE OR UPLIFTING??? THAT IS THE MAIN POINT! I ALSO SAID I HAD WATCHED HIM SUNDAY AND HE DID GIVE THE PLAN OF SALVATION AND DID NOT TALK ABOUT "GETTING RICHES",BUT ABOUT LIFTING EACH OTHER UP AND I SAID THAT IS COOL! B ROTHER GOD BLESS YOU,BUT YOU SEEM LIKE YOU ARE BEING DEFENSIVE AND A BIT JUDGEMENTAL,JUST BY GOING BY WHAT YOU SAID! ALL ALONG I HAVE SAID IF JOEL SHOULD PREACH MORE OF THE GOSPEL WE SHOULD LOVE HIM AND PRAY FOR HIM! YOU SAID SEEMS I REALLY DISLIKE ANY [ME?] PASTOR THAT IS BLESSED BY GOD? I AIN'T GONNA SAY ANYTHING TO YOU AFTER THIS,BUT I HAVE ONLY TALKED ABOUT ONE PASTOR JOEL OSTEEN,SO TO TAKE TAKE AND EQUATE THIS TO "ALL PASTORS WHO "GOD HAS BLESSED" IS GOING WAY TO FAR! I AM ATTACKING NO ONE AND HAVE NOT! ONLY [ONE MORE TIME] FEEL JOEL SHOULD PREACH MORE ON CHRIST ,THE CROSS,SALVATION,CAUSE HE HAS SO MANY SOULS WATCHING HIM! JOEL IS NOT JESUS AND I CAN FEEL LIKE I DO IN LOVE! YOU JUDGE AGAIN SAYING "IF I CAN'T STAND HIM" I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT! I AM GLAD YOU LOVE JOEL. CAN YOU NOT EXTEND LOVE TO ME ALSO EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME? SHOULD YOU NOT ASK THE LORD TO OPEN MY EYES IF I AM WRONG? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY SO MANY ON THIS TOPIC ARE SO DEFENSIVE? IF HE IS A GREAT MAN OF GOD WHAT HARM CAN MY COMMENTS DO TO HIM? SOME HAVE BEEN JUDGEMENTAL AND EVEN MEAN SPRITED TOWARDS ME.SEEMS THESE ARE NOT EVEN DOING WHAT THEY SAY THEY LOVE ABOUT JOEL OR DOING KIND ,POSITIVE THING HE IS INTO AND THESE PEOPLE SAY THEY LOVE JOEL AND WHAT HE IS ABOUT?. JUST LOVE TO HEAR IT,BUT NOT PRACTICE IT? FEW IF ANY HAVE UNDERSTOOD ME IN THIS ,SO IT WILL BE MY LAST COMMENT ON IT! I WAS JUST UNDER THE IMMPRESSION PEOPLE WOULD BE FAIR ON THIS AND JUST DISCUSS IT! GOD BLESS! JAMIE

[jamie allen lindsey]

ROMANS 10:14 HOW THEN SHALL THEY CALL ON HIM IN WHOM THEY HAVE NOT BELIEVED? AND HOW SHALL THEY BELIEVE IN HIM OF WHOM THEY HAVE NOT HEARD? AND HOW SHALL THEYHEAR WITHOUT A PREACHER?

[mike]

I have heard him preach many times and he always talks about money ,or worse yet , how success equals money. He definately preachs prosperity gospel . OUR GOAL IS NOT TO BE " SUCCESSFUL " grabbing money. If this was true Donald Trump would be the Pope !!!

I quit listening to him and started listening to Charles Stanley, who teaches we are saved by the blood of Jesus !!!!!!!