Double spirit of Elijah's spirit

[trisna tarigan]

My brothers n sisters in Jesus Christ, would you like explain to me what is the meaning of double spirit of Elijah's spirit that Elisha asked? (2 Kings 2:9)
I don't understand what is the meaning even I read in my language-Indonesia.

In my opinion, it means 2 part of Elijah's spirit, in other word 2/Elijah's spirit,
but my friend said, 2 X Elijah's spirit.

Please, make me understand, thank you ^_^

In Indonesian Language:
Saudara/i dalam Yesus Kristus, saya tidak mengerti arti dua bagian dari roh Elia yang diminta Elisa. (2 Raja-raja 2:9)
Apakah artinya, 2 bagian dari roh Elia seluruhnya atau 2 kali roh Elia?
dalam istilah matematika, apakan 2/roh Elia atau 2 X roh Elia?
Terima kasih buat penjelasannya ^_^

[Mary O]

This is the way I understand it...
In the old testament, God's spirit was given by measure. Elisha asked to have double the portion of what Elijah had. Even thought it was doubled, it was given by measure.

Jesus Christ had holy spirit without limit or without measure. And now we have the full measure of Christ.

[trisna tarigan]

Thank you Mary ^ _ ^

[Gayla]

Wowo Mary.... love that explanation !!!!!

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[trisna tarigan]

My brothers and sisters, I am sorry, I'm not yet understand the meaning of 'double portion'. Is it (double portion spirit that Elisha asked) has the same meaning with double portion in Deuteronomy 21:17?

Thank you for Mary, nice to hear that now we have the full measure of Christ.

Someone told me that we must ask more power, double power (2 X power) that our pastor has. I don't agree with this mind. She told me : we must ask like Elisha asked. From this statement, I have above question. Please, help me to understand.

In Indonesian:
Saudara/i, maaf kalo saya masih blm mengerti jg arti dari 'dua bagian'. Apakah 'dua bagian' dalam hal roh yang diminta Elisa sama artinya dengan dua bagian dalam hal kekayaan yg dimiliki seorang bapak untuk diwariskan pada anak sulungnya? Bisa dilihat dalam Ulangan 21: 17.

Pernah seorang teman katakan bhw qt harus meminta lebih, 2x lipat kuasa yang dimiliki ibu/bapak pembimbing rohani qt.
Katanya ini berdasarkan permintaan Elisa kpd Elia. Saya berbeda pendapat tentang arti dua bagian yang dituliskan dalam hal ini. Menurut dia 2x lipat, tapi menurut pengertian saya, 2 bagian dari roh yang dimiliki Elia. Dalam bentuk matematikanya 2/seluruh roh yang dimiliki.

Tolong beri saya pengertian, ^_^

[Mary O]

It's two times or double whatever Elijah had. Elisha did twice as many miracles. I think his ministry lasted almost twice as long too. This doesn't mean that Elijah's ministry was less significant than Elisha's. Elijah trained Elisha for ten years. Elijah was a very successful mentor.

[Michelle Thompson]

Great response. Especially the part about it is to glorify God and not ourselves.

[JesusLilGirl]

I really enjoyed my treats today! I have read so many new comments and i have learned so much. thanks. Now this one is awesome x" 2

[wayman takawira]

l'm Elder Brian's side but can also tell me something...how do u view worship

[Gayla]

I am not Elder Brian, but, I had to reply. God loves to be worshiped, in spirit and in truth. He does not need or want fake worship, or something that man makes up, pretending it to be real. Real worship comes from a heart that is sold out to Jesus. Withholding nothing. this is what God wants, and it is very important. If you are not in a true worshipping church, you ought to be.

[Paula Olufsen]

Trisna

I would encourage you to pray and ask the Lord Jesus Christ to open your understanding when you're reading the Holy Scriptures. I would also encourage you to read the King James version of the Bible.


2 Kings 2:9 (King James Version)

9And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.

The Scripture reads '...let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me' - a double portion is not the same as 'double spirit'. if you're reading 'double spirit' - this would mean 'two spirits'. We know that we receive the gift of the Holy Spirit when we are born again in faith by the grace of God in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Elisha here was asking for the fullness of the Holy Spirit that Elijah so had. Elisha was asking for that fullness in all its abundance.

2 Kings 2


Elijah divides Jordan. (1-8) Elijah is taken up into heaven. (9-12) Elisha is manifested to be Elijah's successor. (13-18) Elisha heals the waters of Jericho, Those that mocked Elisha destroyed. (19-25)

Verses 1-8 The Lord had let Elijah know that his time was at hand. He therefore went to the different schools of the prophets to give them his last exhortations and blessing. The removal of Elijah was a type and figure of the ascension of Christ, and the opening of the kingdom of heaven to all believers. Elisha had long followed Elijah, and he would not leave him now when he hoped for the parting blessing. Let not those who follow Christ come short by tiring at last. The waters of Jordan, of old, yielded to the ark; now, to the prophet's mantle, as a token of God's presence. When God will take up his faithful ones to heaven, death is the Jordan which they must pass through, and they find a way through it. The death of Christ has divided those waters, that the ransomed of the Lord may pass over. O death, where is thy sting, thy hurt, thy terror!

Verses 9-12 That fulness, from whence prophets and apostles had all their supply, still exists as of old, and we are told to ask large supplies from it. Diligent attendance upon Elijah, particularly in his last hours, would be proper means for Elisha to obtain much of his spirit. The comforts of departing saints, and their experiences, help both to gild our comforts and to strengthen our resolutions. Elijah is carried to heaven in a fiery chariot. Many questions might be asked about this, which could not be answered. Let it suffice that we are told, what his Lord, when he came, found him doing. He was engaged in serious discourse, encouraging and directing Elisha about the kingdom of God among men. We mistake, if we think preparation for heaven is carried on only by contemplation and acts of devotion. The chariot and horses appeared like fire, something very glorious, not for burning, but brightness. By the manner in which Elijah and Enoch were taken from this world, God gave a glimpse of the eternal life brought to light by the gospel, of the glory reserved for the bodies of the saints, and of the opening of the kingdom of heaven to all believers. It was also a figure of Christ's ascension. Though Elijah was gone triumphantly to heaven, yet this world could ill spare him. Surely their hearts are hard, who feel not, when God, by taking away faithful, useful men, calls for weeping and mourning. Elijah was to Israel, by his counsels, reproofs, and prayers, better than the strongest force of chariot and horse, and kept off the judgments of God. Christ bequeathed to his disciples his precious gospel, like Elijah's mantle; the token of the Divine power being exerted to overturn the empire of Satan, and to set up the kingdom of God in the world. The same gospel remains with us, though the miraculous powers are withdrawn, and it has Divine strength for the conversion and salvation of sinners.

Verses 13-18 Elijah left his mantle to Elisha; as a token of the descent of the Spirit upon him; it was more than if he had left him thousands of gold and silver. Elisha took it up, not as a sacred relic to be worshipped, but as a significant garment to be worn. Now that Elijah was taken to heaven, Elisha inquired, 1. After God; when our creature-comforts are removed, we have a God to go to, who lives for ever. 2. After the God that Elijah served, and honoured, and pleaded for. The Lord God of the holy prophets is the same yesterday, to-day, and for ever; but what will it avail us to have the mantles of those that are gone, their places, their books, if we have not their spirit, their God? See Elisha's dividing the river; God's people need not fear at last passing through the Jordan of death as on dry ground. The sons of the prophets made a needless search for Elijah. Wise men may yield to that, for the sake of peace, and the good opinion of others, which yet their judgment is against, as needless and fruitless. Traversing hills and valleys will never bring us to Elijah, but following the example of his holy faith and zeal will, in due time.

In the love of Christ Jesus the Saviour
Paula